former commerce secretary under george w. bush. also former director of hispanic outreach for the romney campaign. nice to see you, sir. thank you for talking with us. >> pleasure, soledad. >> this morning i was talking to senator blumenthal. he was sort of saying i'm optimistic, i'm hopeful. where do you see that? i don't know that i see optimism. >> no. i agree with you. i'm very disapoented. you know, the big picture is more than just the fiscal cliff. and a lot bigger than do we raise taxes on people who are there to make more than $250,000 a year. this is about the debt. it's about the fiscal deficit. it's about our economy. it's about our future. it's about our children. and president obama is playing a very risky game. because in the end, this is his presidency. and you're going to look back and have a bar chart of deficits and debt. and there's not going to be an asterisk that says it was the republicans' fault. i think we've got to stop playing poker, work together and understand we're working to save the country. >> that